It was a great season. This is my first state title, but
hopefully not my last. I just like racing, so I went out on the day and ran the
race. Sometimes you win, other days it's not even close, but on the day I had
what it took to win and that's what happened.
2.) At some point, whether it was
last year, this summer, or this fall, you probably realized that winning state
cross country was something you had the ability to do. When was that point? How
did it affect your outlook on this season?
Last year cross country season was when it became
obvious that I had a shot at a state title. I placed 5th my sophomore year with
only one runner that placed above me returning. Last year was a great season up
until state. I was undefeated and I had won every race against the two guys
that would eventually beat me at state. I ended up really tightening up in the
cold weather last year and overall it was not a great race. I ended up with
3rd. Last year taught me that your training and amazing races mean nothing if
you can’t get it done on the right day. This year I was a lot less concerned
about other meets and just really focused on the state meet itself.
3.) Take us through your
title-winning race. What was your strategy going in? Did you follow it? Any
surprises?
My strategy was
pretty basic, but I was certain no matter how the race went out, I would be
able to hang tight and make a big kick that nobody in the field could match. I
always do my best to take races out hard, but many times I fall off the pace
and my kick is what saves me in the end. I knew I had to use that to my
advantage, so I planned to stay in a pack with the front runners until the
hilly section of the course at 2 miles. I was in the lead but only by a step
until 2 miles, and once I made my move on the hills, it was apparent to me that
the other guys in the front pack were broken and it was just a matter of
keeping up the pace and finishing.
4.) You didn’t lose to a Class B
runner all season. Your closest races were West Region and State. Did you feel pressure
throughout the season to not lose? Were you ever worried that someone was going
to beat you?
At West Region and State it felt much different than every other
race. Other races to me were just about working on my fitness and getting after
it right from the gun, whereas West Region and State were all about the win, so they
were closer looking at the time, but putting on a 10 second gap in 800m is
pretty significant. I was not too worried about the meets during the season, or
even West Region, because in the end the only race that really matters to most people
is state. I won regionals last year, but ended up 3rd as I said at the state
meet against the same guys I raced against at regionals. That just proved to me
even more the importance of championship racing over fast times.
5.) One of the top Class B
distance runners in track, Caleb Hansen, runs for a Class A school during cross
country. Do you think that would’ve changed your mindset or game plan if he was in the Class B race?
Caleb Hansen is a phenomenal runner, and I raced him once
this season, and I believe I beat him by about 30 seconds. In track he is a
great 3200m and 1600m runner with impressive times in both events. Caleb likes
to run from the front and take races out hard. On the other hand I like staying
in 2nd or 3rd place and betting on my kick at the end. I think my strategy
would have stayed the same, because whether he took it out slow or took it out
fast I would likely hang on and put in a big kick at the end, and he would try
to break me before then.
6.) The next guy on your team
finished almost two minutes behind you. Assuming that means most of your workouts you have to
run by yourself, how do you keep pushing? What motivates you?
My freshman year of XC was the only time I had somebody
to train with. He was a senior, Isak Olson, and we both had a shot at top 20
that year, because we were both 17 mid guys. Since he graduated I have always
done workouts on my own, and I motivate myself by just wanting to give my best
everytime I get out and do a hard workout. The satisfaction you feel after a
super difficult workout when you know that is the best you have ever ran is an
amazing feeling.
7.) What did it mean as a senior
to come out here and get the win when it mattered most?
It was my last year to show that I had what it takes to win
the big meets. I really wanted to show people that with hard work, and a little
help from the man upstairs you achieve the things you've the things you're
working towards.
8.) Do you have any plans after
graduation? Are you interested in running at the college level?
I have applied to the United States Air Force Academy as
well as the United States Military Academy. These are both colleges that have
amazing running programs and I most likely would not be recruited to run at
either, but if I was able to walk onto the track and field team or XC team I
would jump at the opportunity. If I am not able to run at either of these
programs, I would still love to attend them for academic reasons at the least
as well as serving this great nation.
9.) What is your background in
sports? Did you start running at a young age, or is it relatively new?
I started Track in 7th grade and I only ran the 800m, and I
ran 2:16 and I was convinced to run XC in the fall, but I ended up dual
sporting football and XC that year. In track my 8th grade year I ran 2:08 for
800m and 4:49 for 1600m, so I decided to go all in on running.
10.) Talk a little bit about your training. What’s your favorite
kinds of workouts? What do your easy/mileage
days normally consist of?
My training does not consist of that much mileage a
week, which is why I think I could have huge improvements if I continue to keep
running. Every week I run between 20-25 miles a week. My long runs are either 5
or 6 miles, while my easy runs are normally 3-4 miles. A couple of workouts
that I have done is 5x1000 meters at 2:57, 8x600m at 1:48, and 12x400m at 68
high. We do all of these workouts either on grass, gravel, or concrete. Another
workout I remember doing is an all out 2km on the road with 5-10 mph wind at my
back which I ran in 5:45. I then had a full rest which was about 10-15 minutes
and then ran an all out 1km at 2:49.
11.) Any plans to race at a regional meet in cross country, or
is your season over?
I am still training and I will be racing at the NXR
Heartland Regionals. It is one more shot to try and break 16 minutes for 5km.
My best 5km was 16:08 at regionals, but there were many sharp turns and it was
extremely muddy on the turns. I think these few weeks since I started I haven't
lost any fitness. I might have even gained a tiny bit of fitness.
12.) Any plans for a winter sport, or is it time to focus on
track?
I don't do any winter sports, so I have a lot more free
time in the winter. I'm a big outdoorsman, so I spend most of that time
hunting, fishing, or doing anything outside. I normally don't start training
for track until January, so I have quite a bit of time until I'll start running
again. I'll sometimes do an easy 3 mile run or something in December just fun,
but I don't start running seriously until January.
13.) Speaking of track, any early thoughts about what you might
want to accomplish during track this year?
I’m hoping to run some really fast times. I think that
will come along with getting out there and racing. I’m hoping to win the 800m
and the 1600m. I only raced the 3200m twice in my life. One time I ran 10:15 to
qualify, and then at state I ran 9:53 for 4th. If i could also win the 3200m
that would be the cherry on top.
14.) What is running to you? Why do you do it?
This is always a question I struggle with, because I don't
really have an answer. I really just enjoy getting outside and running fast,
and I don't really know why. There is something about running that always keeps
me coming back and I can't pinpoint exactly what it is.
15.) What’s your favorite place (so far) to run in North Dakota?
I don't really have a favorite place to run. Most times
I run the same road north of my hometown hazen, because even though I live in
town it only takes me a quarter mile to hit gravel. I enjoy running the Bowman
County invitational, because it always happens early in the season so there is
no pressure and the course is gradual uphills so you can really push up them
and the downhills are just enough to let you recover.
16.) Have you experienced adversity with running? If so, how did
you overcome it?
The biggest struggle I had was my freshman year of track. I was coming off a great XC season with a time of 17:16 on a tough course. My
prs were 2:08 and 4:49 and I was really hoping to make a big drop in time that
year. I started feeling lots of pain in my right leg, and I just kept getting
told it was just shin splints, so I kept running even though it kept getting
more painful. I was on and off with running because it was so painful, and I
finally went to the doctor and I found out that it was a pretty severe stress
fracture. This was two weeks before state, so I biked everyday and at state I
just barely prd with a 2:04 and a 4:47. This was really disappointing to me,
because I wanted so much more out of the season but it didn't happen. I knew
the only thing I could do is look towards next season. I had an amazing
sophomore XC season dropping my time to 16:34 and I thought that this track
season would be a big breakout season for me. Then Covid happened and my whole
season was cancelled. It was another big disappointment, but all you can really
do is keep putting in the work. Running is not an easy sport in any way, and
that's why it's worth it. A great man of
North Dakota, Theodore Roosevelt, once said, “Nothing in the world is worth
having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty. I have never in
my life envied a human being who led an easy life. I have envied a great many
people who led difficult lives and led them well.”
17.) Do you have any North Dakota runners that you look up to?
What about college or professional athletes?
I love cheering for North Dakota runner, but I often can't find anywhere to watch these races. I watch professional races all the time. I love watching guys like Joshua Cheptegei or Jakob Ingebrigtsen, and this list goes on, but my all-time favorite runner is Stewart McSweyn. McSweyn has some extreme range running a 3:29 1500m, 3:48 mile, 7:29 3000m, and a 1:02.52 half marathon all within a year of each other. The most impressive part about McSweyn's running is his strength. He almost always runs from the front and that is not an easy task. Not often have I seen him not lead a race, but even when he doesn't, he always makes a move over a lap to go rather than closer to the finish like most runners. I hate running from the front and that's a big reason I envy him. I know how tough leading is, and he does it so well.
18.) Can you offer up any advice you’ve learned along the way to
people who might be interested in cross country?
Running is either something you love or you don't. It's as simple as that. If you enjoy running, then keep running, if not then don't. I
wouldn't take much more running advice from me though. I’m not that smart, I
just run fast and make left turns.
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